Neither The High Road nor any of its directors, members, managers, employees, agents, vendors, or suppliers will be liable for any direct, indirect, general, bodily injury, compensatory, special, punitive, consequential, or incidental damages including, without limitation, lost profits or revenues, costs of replacement goods, loss or damage to data arising out of the use or inability to use this forum or any services associated with this forum, or damages from the use of or reliance on the information present on this forum, even if you have been advised of the possibility of such damages. I love Boykins. Some states don't allow off lead tracking. Still want to try one, though. times a week. If you guys are even thinking about going off lead then definitely check out the Garmin Alpha system. I went with a Field Bred English Cocker; worth considering as well, IMO. Mine was perfect with people and other dogs. Advertising - You need to take her to trail your first deer. My EC is also liver colored. I have owned three still have my male; The last papa bought my daughter fell in love with it while she was dog sitting over Labor Day weekend and she renamed it and claimed it as her own! A good friend has one. I've never hunted with a Boykin, but I know a guy that hunts with a Springer Spaniel. Boykin Spaniel Standard. distinguish between deer and turkey scent. the walks are five or six days a week for thirty to forty-five minutes at a time. This will take a few times or more for the pup to learn Ducksyou could say that! W. Whit Boykin (1861-1932), a planter, land appraiser and well-known sportsman of the Boykin community just outside Camden, South Carolina, along with his kinsmen the Canteys, experimented with many breeds to resolve the problems posed by their Wateree hunting trips. There is one listed in Morringsport, but we could never get a reply. just bred into 'em. Most hunting Boykins, English Springers or English Cockers will be hot wired for play. Being choosie now, but a light colored dog is easier to see and read, especially at night. Buddy was raised from a pup by the ranch foreman and is a deer tracking machine. Ive listened to both ways of thinking and ended up doing a combination of both. the pup sit still for a half and hour. I would think a Boykin Spaniel would be just right. Can't go wrong with one. Thats just my anecdotal, not some professional insight.but Ive seen and worked with good and bad of many breeds: lab, Boykin, springer, golden, and many pointing and versatile breeds. It can always be turned loose if needed to bay, cross big water or whatever. Work your way up to it by starting with 5 minutes Follow us on Twitter, Facebook and Instagram to get the latest updates on LSU Football and Recruiting. There is literally nothing that I would have changed about her. Discussion in 'Hunting' started by courtgreene, Oct 30, 2018. They require a soft hand or you will shut them down. You may want to take a large burlap bag into the woods with you. Other ancestors are reported to be the Chesapeake Bay retriever, springer spaniel, cocker spaniel, and the American water spaniel.Today this little brown retriever can be found on hunts and in homes across America. I am considering Boykin Spaniel Plantation in Georgia right now. They just inseminated the bitch and expect to have a litter in 2 months. I've found both to be great house dogs and hunters. Hunting Partners, Family Pets, and Best Friends. At a hunt to retrieve trial that got your dog booted instantly. A.J., I did say "usually". Copyright 2000-2022 24hourcampfire.com, Inc. All Rights Reserved. Someone working a lab may have a completely different perception of off lead tracking than someone working say a dashund or a Kopov. She wants something small, and I want a hunting dog so we are looking at Boykin spaniels. I had a Boykin and, when I couldn't find a suitable pup to replace him, found a Field Bred English Cocker pup. They are brothers. Never owned one before, but have had friends that did. We got ours 2 months ago from a breeder in Ashdown, AR. Calls with Beechnut and Chaser. I have friends that track their deer with pit bulls. No training has ever been required. I will echo what Cruiser said, English Cockers are great dogs too. Once the birds have all been flushed and pup comes back put a leash on him and get him All rights reserved. Id recommend to give both ways a try and then decide over time for yourself which way works better for you. Several door prizes will be given away as well. I guess I got the best of both worlds with the Boykin that I had. not to chase deer. Some people use harnesses some people use GPS collars. A friend of mine has one. Comparing just running a dog off lead with no control over them versus running one with an Alpha system is apples and oranges. Then try putting the bag over The typical heavyweight retriever was a drawback in a craft already loaded with men, guns, provisions and other gear. When you first take a puppy out for walks and there are deer in the area - watch out Boykin spaniels are true dual-purpose hunting dogs. Mostly use mine to retrieve, but they are natural flushers as well. You may want to practice at home making If I find any turkey feathers while walking I pick them up, call the dog to me, and let Mb. The are very similar to Boykins, both at home and in the field. We are just getting ready to do some training with her. When your pup is about 3 months old take him/her out for about 15 minute walks 4 -5 Do Not Sell My Personal Information -. Well..Perhaps her insistence that she ride on my lap everywhere we went. I do have permanent scars on my forearms from tracking on lead. Sent a deposit and had to wait for the next litterjust a few months. He is great around people he knows but does bark at those he does not. How did you settle on a breeder? They are good for any kind of duck but a goose would be too big. Shot a Boykin field trial once very versatile dogs. Usually the best trackers start out on lead for 3 or 4 seasons. You didn't say how many of the calls taken were put on the tailgate. Eventually he will get the idea that he has to stay I think this is gonna be fun. them smell it and eat it if they like. When you say "harness" What type are you referring to? They are not built for sloppy mud (not that a lab is either, but I've seen the boykin get stuck where a lab could eventually get out). I have been wanting one myself for a while and now that I am retiring soon I have decided it is time to get one. In those days wagons, wooden boats and trains afforded hunters access to the game rich corridors along the river. Hunters also used sections as one-man boats just large enough for one person and a compact retriever.L. I miss mine terribly. quiet until you shoot or give the release command. It's just a preference. When ya'll pick a pup for a blood dog do you ever consider that a smaller breed, daschund for example, will usually live longer than a larger bred dog? in Shreveport. Curs are great dogs. Big old lap dogs at home bird crazy in the field. Note: Be sure to check your state regulations to make sure it is okay to hunt You have to if your going to bay up a neck shot, broken leg, etc. turkeys with dogs. I would have no fear of having him around small children. It's really a preference. This will help quiet him. I guess I`m not a best tracker cause I don`t track on lead, I have two pups"both reg. I own a Catahoula. He was telling me that they made the Boykin as a pure hunting dog b/c the springer had almost exclusively become a show dog. Great little dog. Plotts" now 24 and 19 months neither has had any training on lead. Copyright @2022 TigerDroppings.com. I'd really like to attend this. They only have one litter every two years. Like any good field breed, theyre probably as much about how theyre trained as what breed they are. Smart, love water, eager to hunt and please Whats not to like? Ive hunted with a lot of other boykins and most were pretty business minded in the field. My Boykin turned 15 in October. Like many of the sporting breeds, Boykin spaniels make the transition from hunting companion to family pet easily. My Boykin "Tig" is about 8. been one of the better gundogs ive owned. Never owned a Boykin; always heard good things about them. I've never trained a dog to track. You might just be surprised how well she does with no training. It is NOT legal in South Carolina or Florida. They are more than adequate for both according to the reviews I read online. I feel like I can read him pretty well now by his behavior and body language and I have the ability to stop or correct him in the palm of my hand just the same. Always better if the dog can track on lead. Alexander L. White (1860-1942) liked the little dog and took it home. LOVES the water! Just saying it is nice to have a dog that can do both. 22B39269-3CA1-4E5D-AA3D-5ACBEAAC6D03.jpeg, 629B26EC-9920-4E50-A0A9-B9B94C7543BB.jpeg, Powered by UBB.threads PHP Forum Software 7.7.5. Is that about right? I track on lead because I dot want anything to happen to my dog beyond my control. Cookie Policy - We were shooting a thrown launched duck with blind retrieve they aren't labs but pretty good. Pam's Boykin Home Page I do know when my dog is on the right track, even when there is no blood, because I can "read" her when she's on lead. The Mrs. Last Coco and I are looking into getting a dog. Terms of Service - There is one close to where I live (Shreveport) but I don't know anything about them and they are extremely new (2 years). to sit quietly while you call the birds back in. Shes completely calm in the house, but was a fantastic flusher and retriever in her younger days. Talked to a lady in Austin that had a male (we wanted a female) and then the folks in Ashdown. You can see a picture of him in my thread ". Gain a better understanding of the World's most popular big game animal and the techniques that will help you become a better deer hunter. I see the points being made by both sides of the argument. When the pup comes Shes been a fantastic dog. One of my best dogs, Ol' Bob, never tracked a step off lead. The little Dude gives you all he has every time. Love my Boykins! The kids love her. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use. They work hard in the field so, since they are flushers, be prepared to try to keep up. Just field experience. For more information please visit their website at www.boykinspaniel.org. I had a friend that use to train labs for blood dogs say that he would never try to train a hound as a blood dog, he would always prefer a bird dog (retriever) of some kind. Males are $650, females $600. and add a little more each time. Buy from a reputable breeder and check carefully on their blood lines. Ive got two. Archive - Similar situatuion here. pam@boykinspaniel.com After the dog showed some aptitude for retrieving, White sent the dog called Dumpy to his longtime friend and hunting partner Whit Boykin. I contacted the one on Old Mooringsport Rd. Privacy Statement - Don't be too harsh on them about it until you are sure they can Does anyone have experience with this breed as either a pet in general or a hunting dog? I always preferred a 35 to 50 pound dog. This past season both pups worked with an old dog off leadMy old dogs 7 & 8 year olds never been train on lead both or good trackers.Randy "trackncur" knows thats. Only two of them hunted and I was VERY impressed with them!!!!!! She has no problems hunting with other dogs, but doesnt generally like being around them, otherwise. The first Boykin spaniel, or the precursor of todays breed, was reportedly a small, stray spaniel type dog that befriended a banker walking from his home to the First Presbyterian Church in Spartanburg, South Carolina around 1905-1910. I'm not looking for a specific hunting dog, just an all-around hunting dog. Your right about getting to a call quickly, it saves a lot of meat and the only tracks you need to wait a few hours on are gut shots and liver shots. I have been looking at a lot of different breeders and they all have huge waiting lists. Great family dogs, great hunters all-around great disposition! They are great dogs. With selective breeding and a little luck, Boykin developed a small multipurpose retriever now known as the Boykin spaniel. Not as good as my Lab or chesapeake but no slouch either and can go a lot harder in the dove fields than any of the others. with a little luck they will smell the birds and start chasing and barking at them. Good luck and happy hunting! Once he smelled me, all was fine. I talked to a breeder in Hallsville, TX and was put on a "long" waiting list. back to you put him into the bag. Joe Sears of Adventure Game It will still probably be a long wait especially for a female. This dog became the foundation stock for the Boykin spaniel. It's Both of mine were/are great on pheasant flushing and retrieving. You can train them for pretty much any kind of hunting apparently, except pointing. This is encouraging. They are so similar in behavior, mannerisms, and hunting style that I couldn't tell the difference in the two if I didn't know their lineage. To be a part of the Boykin Spaniel pages, contact Pam Kadlec: They flush, they don't point. Is there a certain length or type I should use? The Boykin Spaniel was first bred by South Carolina hunters during the 1900s to provide the ideal dog for hunting ducks and wild turkeys in the Wateree River Swamp. Sometimes under the right circumstances I allow my dog to track off lead for a mile or more. This information was found on the website for the Boykin Spaniel Society. Contact Us - The guy who originally bred Boykins did a great job! The three that I am familiar with were great pets. Stamina in hot weather and eagerness to please make this dog a favorite in the dove fields, but Boykins have retained their spaniel flushing abilities and readily adapt to a variety of upland game hunting including pheasant, quail and grouse. Most people including mike who I've talked to many times abut tracking agree that a lead is the best for at least 3 seasons. There will always be situations where the dog needs to be on lead (roads, property lines and such). An aptitude for water retrieving combined with their compact size assures these dogs a place in the duck boats and blinds as well. In Boykins hands the little stray developed into a superb turkey dog and waterfowl retriever. I would say that they are very capable dogs for retrieving and make a great house dog. You have control over what the dog is doing especially when it's a pup. (retriever, squirrel dog, rabbit dog, etc). She had tons of drive when training/hunting, but settled down nicely in the home. When the pup is about six months I try to take them where turkeys are likely to be and Theres definitely some differences in opinions out there concerning this topic. About same size as a Boykin. This site uses cookies to help personalise content, tailor your experience and to keep you logged in if you register. I keep hearing they're a high strung pain in the butt. battues boy, Merlot, is a rock star of a dog! All information is provided "as is" with all faults without warranty of any kind, either express or implied. Hunters on South Carolinas Wateree River needed a small rugged dog compactly built for boat travel and able to retrieve on land and water. On the Wateree River in the early part of this century hunters often used a take apart section boat. Held together by bolts to form a large craft, the three sections with seats removed could be nested to fit neatly into a wagon or trains baggage car. 51B194B7-208F-4B7B-B251-165C45F8C1D9.jpeg. What length leads? 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