ANY OTHER HEALTH CONDITION HAS ANOTHER SOURCE. The markings must occur on certain parts of the dogs' coat. 2. Sable is a term that means that the coat is one color yet the tips of the hairs are black. listing updated: a month ago, We have a gorgeous litter of smaller standard poodle puppies. It also carries phantom (tan point). You can find our beliefs regarding the gene here. If black the dog is black based, if brown the dog is brown based. Some of the combinations are safe to bred together (M to MC) while others will increase the odds of impaired puppies, The ONLY impairments caused from merle are visual and auditory. area: Columbiana, Ohio [United States] There are additional combinations, however their explanation is beyond the scope of this writing, There are many more combinations of merle possible than those listed above. Intensity of masking seems to run in familial lines. Depending on what it is bred with it is capable of producing brindle/brindlepointed puppies. This dog, depending on what it is bred with, can produce cream spectrum puppies (red, apricot, cream, white). member: cnckinder1 Many refer to these markings as Dobie markings (short for Doberman), however this pattern also appears on Dachshunds, certain Spaniels, Yorkies, Manchester Terriers and certain Coonhounds. The ability for A locus to show on the coat is determined by the K locus! text for more info All phantom Poodles are born with their markings. It cannot produce parti/piebald puppies. Will be UTD on vaccines and Black, cream and merles (Brindle/Carriers can also produce patterned pups). Where color lands on the coat is simply a matter of genomes and does not affect the personality of the dog. We are a participant in the Amazon Services LLC Associates Program, an affiliate advertising program designed to provide a means for us to earn fees by linking to Amazon.com and affiliated sites. They have had It has a solid coat (unless merle). It also carries recessive black. The dog MUST be Kbr/ky or ky/ky to be patterned and MUST be KB/ky, KBr/KBr, or ky/ky to produce patterned pups. The actual sahe of an e/e dog is determined by the Intensity gene. m/m - The dog has no copies of the merle gene. With most dogs, the sabling (black tips) fade out or completely disappear with age. a/a dogs will look exactly like they would if they were KB/-. There are no differences in regard to vulnerabilities to health issues and they do not require any different sort of grooming or care that differs from a solid Poodle. sp/sp - The dog is piebald. We will never sell your information or spam you. A phantom Poodle is not a different breed or type of dog, this is simply a term to describe a particular coloring of the dog. Located in New Waterford Ohio area: Cambridge, Ohio [United States] Subscribe to our mailing list to receive updates. 2. Many refer to these markings as Dobie markings (short for Doberman), however this pattern also appears on Dachshunds, certain Spaniels, Yorkies, Manchester Terriers and certain Coonhounds. Let's take a closer look into the world of Poodle colors to help explain what these colors are and why they exist. Phantasie is an adorable phantom puppy whose photo can be found on our Proud owners page and Justy posted above. These markings must be: On the sides of the muzzle (also referred to as the side of the cheeks). These dogs breed like any other non-merle. While it is the solid Poodle that is the most common, there is much to discuss regarding Phantom Poodle coloring , which is different than mismarks, the Tuxedo and partis. Most often brindle dogs come back as Kb/ky when tested. They will be up to date on vaccinations and vet care. B/b - The dog is black based with black pigment. Ay/aw The dog is sable. How do I get an emotional support Doodle. 9. at/a The dog is phantom (tan point). Most of the time this fills in with age. 8. at/ at The dog is phantom (tan point). listing updated: 3 months ago, Black and white parti male puppy Cute. Sable is a term that means that the coat is one color yet the tips of the hairs are black. These dogs are broken down into more detailed groups: Black phantoms - black & apricot, black & red, black & cream, black & gray, black & brown or black & silver. member: lexighouser For this reason, a phantom Poodle dam or sire can produce a litter of brindle. Em - Masked (if A locus is allowed to show), E - normal, the coat can contain eumelanin or pheomelanin (depending on A locus), If A locus is not allowed to show, then coat will be eumelanin only, If A locus is allowed to show, coat can contain pheomelanin as well, e - recessive red- coat will only contain pheomelanin, E/E - the dog does NOT carry for nor can it produce cream spectrum puppies (red, apricot, cream, white). While it is the solid Poodle that is the most common, there is much to discuss regarding Phantom Poodle coloring (pronounced fantom) , which is different than mismarks, the Tuxedo and partis. This type of coloring, while extremely beautiful and preferred by many Poodle owners, is not yet accepted by the AKC in regard to conformation. How much does it cost to raise a Doodle puppy? area: Columbiana, Ohio [United States] Phantom poodles are also accepted by the AKC in variouscolor combinations. Sometimes these dogs exhibit pseudo tan points as puppies before the coat clears. Brown (Note: Chocolate is not a correct Poodle Term), B/B - The dog is black based with black pigment. 3. For an excellent example of a phantom poodle with bowtie markings, see the picture of Pride posted on our Dams page. 7. aw/a The dog is agouti. listing updated: 3 months ago, AKC Standard Poodle Puppies. It also carries agouti. Kbr is not testable. The inline breeding caused bloodlines to develop too long of a lower jaw, overbites, incorrect number of teeth, and premature color fading. Phantoms are now recognized in the UKC show ring. area: Salem, Ohio [United States] this dog can only produce black based puppies. category: Dogs and Puppies, Poodle category: Dogs and Puppies, Poodle Before 2005, in Germany (a country in which the Poodle is highly popular), phantoms were only allowed to be bred with other phantom Poodles. So depending on what it is bred with it can produce both black and brown based puppies. member: lexighouser It also carries phantom (tan point). Hidden is explained above. Ay/a The dog is sable. This dog cannot produce patterned puppies. Depending on what it is bred with it is capable of producing both brindle/brindlepoint and patterned puppies. So a dog that is e/e can be any shade from dark mahogany red to ice white. Over 50% of its body is covered white, True Irish Spotting is only found in certain breeds (Aussies, Bernese Mountain Dogs).It is not found in poodles. Em - is dominant to all and can cause masking on a dog with A locus pattern. area: Columbiana, Ohio [United States] So e/e and Sable dogs can be merle, but not show the pattern. Cryptic refers to a merle length that has shortened to the point no pattern is produced. Currently, the AKC does not recognize Phantom Poodles in Conformation events, but does allow them to participate in Agility and Obedience. These rules caused too much inline breeding to be done. If bred with another ky/ky dog, it will produce sables. Further testing (if not already done) to determine the length of the merle alleles is necessary. We also provide a five-generation pedigree and registration with the American Kennel Club. Black can be combined with apricot,cream, gray, red and silver. 2019-2022 STOKHAUS MEDIA, LLC DBA STOKESHIRE DESIGNER DOODLES, Garrison Shotliff - Doodle School Puppy Trainer & Flight Manny. Phantoms are genetically linked to brindle Poodles. Look at the K locus first. 4. These dogs can be good in breeding programs because paired with a ky/ky, at/at they will produce all phantoms. Further testing (if not already one) to determine the length of the merle is necessary. All phantom Poodles are born with their markings. Amet consectetur adinisci modi temsora incidunt labore dolore masnam aliruam volustatem enim minima veniam nostrum exercita tionem ullam cornoris suscihit labori aliruid commodi conseruatur autem resreh enderit volustate velit esse nihil conser illum dolorem. It is a a solid coat. category: Dogs and Puppies, Poodle area: Columbiana, Ohio [United States] The solid will usually be: Black, cream, apricot, red, white, silver or brown. 1. These dogs are broken down into more detailed groups: Black phantoms - black & apricot, black & red, black & cream, black & gray, black & brown or black & silver. area: Massillon, Ohio [United States] listing updated: 2 months ago, Toy Poodle Poodle Male Puppy DOB parents eyes genetically clear, will be around 8 pounds full grown. The produce the pattern they are bred with. ky - non-solid, allows patterns to show (unless a/a). TEXT FOR MORE DETAILS! This term only refers to Poodles that have specific markings on a solid background. Sable and Phantom are two different alleles! This is still a brown based dog. Duis aute irure dolor in reprehenderit in voluptate velit esse cillum dolore eu fugiat nulla pariatur excepteur sint occaecat. category: Dogs and Puppies, Poodle Socialized with children, adults and other pets. member: thepuppyhouse Phantom Poodles, just like any other double colored Poodle including tuxedos or partis, are defined by coat color only. It also carries recessive black. These markings must be: On the sides of the muzzle (also referred to as the side of the cheeks), Attribution: By V. Eickenberg.Flying Spark at de.wikipedia [Public domain], from Wikimedia Commons. category: Dogs and Puppies, Poodle 3. category: Dogs and Puppies, Poodle Of course, color andmarkings arent the most important aspect of choosing your poodle. member: brbckgmfn The puppies are 6 weeks old and ready for their e/e covers all other colors and patterns. category: Dogs and Puppies, Poodle It has a solid coat (unless merle). This is much different than parti colored Poodles, even though both parti and phantoms have a mixture of 2. This is caused by how the pigment spreads in utero and is completely random (non genetic). Black, cream, apricot, red, white, silver or brown. Just because a dog has one or even two copies does not mean there will necessarily be a mask. Pure bred. For this reason, a phantom Poodle dam or sire can produce a litter of brindle puppies and likewise a brindle Poodle dam or sire can produce a litter of phantom puppies. si - Irish Spotting (not testable and may not exist. It has two copies of sable. This does not occur as the dog ages. Recessive black will show NO pattern! member: dwgmlcm999 House trained loves car Depend on what it is bred with this dog is capable of producing solid and brindle puppies. Male mini poodle. It carries parti.Depending on what it is bred with the dog can produce solid, abstract and parti puppies. THIS IS A COMPLICATED GENE AND BEYOND THE SCOPE OF THIS SYNOPSIS. That means that when they come to you, they are completely socialized, and therefore free of the nervousness and high-strung qualities that some inadequately socialized poodles can have. The dog is shade of recessive red (red, apricot, cream, white). listing updated: 3 months ago, CKC blue merle phantom Mini Poodle for stud, Moyan (Medium Size) Poodle Puppies Parti, Merle, Phantom Colors. Excepteur sint occaecat cupidatat non proident sunt in culpa lorem sante qui officia. There is a difference between hidden and cryptic merle. With most dog breeds, brindle is a term that means the coat that is striped, with intermingling dark and light hairs making a striping pattern. It only has one copy of brindle. This dog carries for brown pigment. This is much different than parti colored Poodles, even though both parti and phantoms have a mixture of 2 colors. What do you do when you bring your puppy home? Theoretical at this time). KB/ky - This dog is dominant black. There is no such thing as a sable phantom. Ay/ Ay The dog is sable. All our breeding dogs have been Optigen tested for PRA-PRCD and come with a health guarantee. member: saturnaliaknls Queenie our AKC Registered phantom poodle was bred to our CKC Registered chocolate listing updated: 3 months ago, AKC STANDARD POODLES Kbr/Kbr - This dog is visually brindle/brindlepoint. A red dog can genetically be merle, phantom or any other pattern. Phantom poodles must have a ky/ky genotype (non-solid black that allows other colors to be expressed) plus an E (allows for brindling) or EM (gives a black mask) , and also be at/at (the gene that allows for tan points). Our puppies are entirely home raised, and are used to being around kids, cats and neighbors. The merle gene in poodles is a hotly debated topic. A phantom Poodle is not a different breed or type of dog, this is simply a term to describe a particular coloring of the dog. How do I solve behavior problems for my Doodle? Whenever an apricot Poodle puppy was born, the German Poodle Club did not allow that pup to bred. Photos Courtesy of Valerie Mitchem, Owner of Valaurah Farms, Responsibly and Ethically Bred Companions for your Family, Rosemerta - Red Merle Australian Shepherd, Zelda - Cafe au Lait Standard Poodle Female, Luna x Dudley - Summer 2022 - Inter-variety Moyen Poodles, Bellatrix x Magic - Spring 2022 - Merle, Tri, & Phantom Standard Poodles, Skye x Prince - Miniature Poodles - Fall 2022, Lola x Finn - Fall 2022 - Red Standard Poodles, Minnie x Xander - AKC/FCI/UKC Champions Standard Poodles, Molly x Gilly - Winter 2022/23 - Red Miniature Poodles, MERLE - SINE INSERTION FROM MC TO MH- THE INCREDIBLE STORY OF MERLE. Phantoms are genetically similar to brindle Poodles. Brown andtan can both be combined. E/e - the dog carries one copy of recessive red. HIGHLY RECOMMEND THE FACEBOOK GROUP: MERLE - SINE INSERTION FROM MC TO MH- THE INCREDIBLE STORY OF MERLE. Full AKC registered. Ay/at The dog is sable. Theres no way to visually see it though due to no eumelanin in the coat. Brown pigment can be referred to as red especially in Australian Shepherds and Aussiedoodles. member: suerose1965 Males and females available With most dog breeds, brindle is a term that means the coat that is striped, with intermingling dark and light hairs making a striping pattern. It has two copies of brindle. Mc+ (231 - 246)- Cryptic Merle (Not visually merle), MC (200 - 230)- Cryptic Merle (not visually merle), M/M - The dog has two copies of merle. Cute Cute puppy The puppy are raised loving family and puppy loves to play with listing updated: 3 months ago, Full AKC Standard Poodle Puppies It also carries recessive black. This does not occur as the dog ages. 1. ky/ky - This dog is patterned. area: Columbiana, Ohio [United States] Residual white can cause small white dots on the chest, white toes, or white tipped tails. 6. aw/at The dog is agouti. Brindle exhibits properties of both KB and ky so thus the test cannot differentiate, 3. at Tan Point, Phantom, Brindlepoint, 4. a Recessive Black, (Non Patterned). member: lexighouser KB/Kbr - The dog is dominant black. It has two copies of agouti. Depending on what it is bred with it can produce both black and brown based puppies. The term phantom poodle does not refer to a specific breed or size of poodle, only to its color and markings. category: Dogs and Puppies, Poodle S/sp - The dog has no white markings. This type of coloring, while extremely beautiful and preferred by many Poodle owners, is not yet accepted by the AKC in regard to conformation. No matter what the color combination, a dogs coat must comply with the standards for phantom markings to qualify for conformation shows with the UKC. Depending on what it is bred with this dog will produce patterned puppies. Pseudo irish spotting is possible in poodles but it is still created by piebald. area: Wheeling, West Virginia [United States] This led to a drastic & needed change that allowed Phantoms to be mated with black or. He throws BLUE EYES and carries chocolate/liver. Phantom poodles are bi-colored, with the same markings as a Doberman. The markings must occur on certain parts of the dogs' coat. With most dogs, the sabling (black tips) fade out or completely disappear with age. This is slowly, yet steadily, decreasing the above stated flaws. However, with Poodles, brindle means "sable". e/e - The dog is pheomelanin only. S/S - the dog has no white markings. Whatever it has on its A locus is showing through. That is, they have a lighter color appearing on their eyebrows, muzzle and throat, legs and feet, below their tail and a bowtie on the chest.. For a dog to be classified as a phantom it must have all the markings of a Dobie. listing updated: 3 months ago, Standard poodle puppies 5. aw/aw The dog is agouti. member: lexighouser Phantom poodles must have a ky/ky genotype (non-solid black that allows other colors to be expressed) plus an E (allows for brindling) or EM (gives a black mask) , and also be at/at (the gene that allows for tan points). Inline breeding is the pairing of dogs who are very closely related, such as father to daughter and is considered unethical by most reputable breeders in the U.S. If uncertain of the dogs base color, look at the eyelids, nose, and lips to determine color. However, with Poodles, brindle means "sable". Depending on what this dog is bred with it is capable of producing solid and patterned puppies. Small white markings are not always caused by piebald. Merle is hidden by pheomelanin. In addition, there are no behavioral or temperament differences with Phantoms. area: Struthers, Ohio [United States] Was used for breeding stud and had beautiful litters of puppies! category: Dogs and Puppies, Poodle Kbr/ky - This dog is visually brindle/bridlepoint. It has two copies of phantom. b/b - The dog is brown based and has brown pigment. Text FA hips- good, elbows- normal, and patellas normal, genetic tested clear through optimal selection . listing updated: a month ago, We have a fantastic litter of moyan (medium size) poodle puppies. Anim laborum omnis natus voluntatem accus antium dolor exceur sante monar sonato emrue totam aseriam earue illo inventore veritatis architecto beatae vitae dicta exslicabo enim ipsam volus. listing updated: 2 months ago, Aprox 8 years old. category: Dogs and Puppies, Poodle KB/KB - The dog is dominant black. M/m - The dog has one copy of merle.